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These muzzleloaders are authentic, true reproductions. Buttstock of a Krnka Dragoon rifle compared with that of a M1869 Infantry/marksman rifle. Like all Europeans, the Russians were keenly aware of the drubbings which the Dreyse-equipped Prussians handed to the Danes in 1864 and to the Austrians in 1866, which spurred them to quickly adopt, as interim stop-gaps, the Terri-Norman and Carle' paper cartridge needle-fire rifles. Model: 1857 PERCUSSION MUSKET RIFLE. Extraction leverage is not great enough for ejection thus it is likely that the rifle would need to be tipped either up or over to clear the spent case. The original breech was removed from the barrel and a new bronze breech piece was added with the barrel screwed into it. The stock was of stained birch with a grain pattern similar to Austrian and Prussian beech. WebThe M1867 Russian Krnka ( ) was a breech loading conversion of the muzzle-loading Model 1857 Six Line rifle musket designed by Czech arms maker, Sylvester Krnka. The Infantry and Marksmans rifles are virtually, The cleaning rods of the underlying rifles were retained by being locked in place at the shoulder in a manner, for example, identical to that of the, Side view of the shoulder-locking 6-Line/Krnka cleaning rod. It was also clear that a new reduced caliber design was the wave of the future. Unfortunately, this is the best that I was able to do given the age and wear of the rifle's buttstock. Photos Courtesy of. However, just as these conversions were coming online it became painfully evident that they were already obsolete and that what was needed was a rifle firing self-contained metallic cartridges, even if such rifle was also merely an expedient until a dedicated, metallic cartridge breech-loader became available. Add to Cart. Lockplate Complete w/ Hammer, 1857/69 Carbine. See Auction Information for full details." WebFor other collectable antique military firearms, take a look at our inventory of antique U.S. martial pistols and Civil War revolvers, foreign military surplus antique handguns, and foreign military antique long guns. WebBuilding on a legacy of excellence forged by Eliphalet Remington in 1816, Remington rifles have defined and defended the American way of life for more than 200 years. Revised February 19, 2000 Any help locating such a photo or drawing would be sincerely appreciated. The neck of the bayonet has an oval cross-section. Four distinct examples of Russian 6-Line. The gun appears complete and remains mechanically functional. Photo Credit: User Nick Stanav via. Description: CIVIL WAR ENFIELD STYLE SPANISH CONTRACT MODEL 1857 OR P1857 PERC. Four distinct examples of Russian 6-Line muzzle-loading rifles entered Russian army service after the Crimean War. Like the earlier flintlock muskets, the M1845 was a large bore (nominally .71 caliber) smoothbore, single shot muzzleloading long arm. that represent 652A:89 @C659=K9 02>4, or the Izhevesk Arms Factory, over the manufacturing date of 1863. M1856/69 Russian Krnka Marksman rifle ( ) Photo Courtesy: The nearly identical M1858 Infantry Rifle, We have been wholly unable to find any photo or drawing of the The M1859 Dragoon Rifle (. Regarding the first two rifles mentioned above, it should be noted that the Russian Ministry of Defense, being advised by senior army officers, set the sight of the Infantry Rifle not at 1200 steps, but at 600 steps, the so-called "short sight" despite the rifles having identical ballistic performances. The new M1856 Rifle Musket was 53 in overall length with a 37 long, .60 caliber barrel that was rifled with four grooves with a relatively slow rate of twist of about 1:49, or of a turn in the length of the barrel. The rear sight was a distinctive feature, as it was a Swiss-style pivoting leaf of the same pattern that had been used on the Lige-made Russian M1843 Luttich Carbines, which were Belgian-made Russian contract copies of the British Brunswick Rifle. Very quickly thereafter the Russians adopted the M1870 Berdan II bolt action rifle. Photo Credit: User Nick Stanav viawww.gunboards.com/forums, M1869 Krnka Dragoon lower barrel band. Housed within the breech block is a very small nipple-shaped firing pin actuated by a much larger inertial striker. This was specifically a result of the disbelief of the authorities in the infantryman's ability to hit targets at a long distance. Lockplate of a foreign-purchased Russian M1856 or M1858 6-Line rifle subsequently converted to M1869 Krnka that has been re-altered to a short rifle the same dimensions as a Russian M1869 Dragoon rifle. Exceptionally, As a side note, Russia also provided Bulgaria with 15,000 captured Snider rifles presumably Turkish Sniders), 8,000 Chassepot rifles, 7,000 captured Peabody rifles (presumably M1868 Romanian Peabodys) and 9,000 guns and rifles of other systems (mainly percussion and flintlock guns), some 96,000 guns and rifles in all. A steel bullet at 1000 steps was able to pierce 2.5 bags of earth and one bag at 1500 steps. The two primary rifles of the infantry were the M1856/69 "Marksman" rifle converted from the earlier M1856 6-Line rifles and identified by its long-leaf rear sight, and the M1858/69 "Infantry" rifle converted from the stocks of M1858 6-Line rifles, having shorter rear sight leaves. In America, the solution was Erskine Allins Trapdoor system, in England it was the Snider conversion and in France it was the Tabatire. Unlike much of Europe (but similarly to the United States) Russia never adopted a repeating black powder cartridge rifle, transitioning directly from theM1870 Berdan IIto the well designed and long-lived M1891 smokeless powder Mosin-Nagant. Operation of the Krnka is similar to the French Tabatire and British Snider. . Russian, The Russians sued for peace in 1856 giving up Bessarabia (part of present day Romania ). However, the new design introduced a very English stock profile with a brass nose cap and clamping barrel bands, all of which were certainly a tip of the Russian ushanka (fur cap) to the English Enfield. 1876 Photo Credit: Coincidentally, during the joint development with Hiram Berdan of what would become the. THREE BAND RIFLE MUSKET, DATED 1864. It is estimated that some 620,000 or more Krnka conversions of various Russian 6-Line rifles were produced during this period concurrently with the adoption of both the short-lived, limited production M1868 Berdan I and the vastly more widely produced M1870 Berdan II. In 1880, it was decided to re-equip the Bulgarian army with Berdan No. Note to Visitors: This rifle, along with the M1869 Russian Albini-Baranov and the M1868 Russian Berdan I were all developed more-or-less concurrently over the same several years, hence this HISTORICAL CONTEXT section as well as the bulk of the DEVELOPMENT section will be substantially identical for all three rifles. Despite the evidence of the potential superiority of metallic cartridges, this was not assured, and the Russians followed the lead of the Germans (Dreyse) and French (Chassepot) and adopted the Terri-Norman and the Carl paper cartridge ignition systems. The nickname was derived from the caliber of the gun and the Russian unit of measure, the liniya, which was 1/10 of a diuym. WebRifle muskets typically used percussion lock systems, with some exceptions like the Springfield Model 1855, which also was equipped with the Maynard tape primer system. Our research regarding the conversion and manufacturing of the Krnka system conversion rifles is, well, admittedly confusing. Also, the stock was narrower than other 6-line rifles. The Model 1873 was particularly successful, being marketed by the manufacturer as 'The Gun that Won the In 1839, the Russian military adopted the percussion ignition system and by the early 1840s had undertaken a percussioning program similar to those in the United States and most of the European nations to alter existing stocks of flintlock muskets and rifles to percussion. This rifle was fitted with a long-leaf rear sight calibrated to 1200 steps (853 m); M1856/69 Russian Krnka Marksman rifle ( ) Photo Courtesy:https://naukatehnika.com/russkaya-vintovka-sistemyi-krnka.html. By now metallic cartridges had been much improved and their advantages were clearly evident. In 1866 the Russians began the process on converting these muzzle-loading rifles to breech-loading systems. In early wars with the Turks, Russia gained a firm foothold on the Black Sea for the first time. Unlike the Snider and Tabatire, the breech block is not withdrawn to extract the spent case. In 1854, the Russians started rifling and sighting existing stocks of M1845 muskets, but this was too little too late and few of the rifled arms reached the troops in the Crimea before the end of the war. The barrel was made in Belgium and had proof marks from Lige since the Russians bought Belgian barrels at the time. Contemporary drawing of the M1867 Russian Baranov rifle. For the time being, however, the stock appears to be solid, despite the cracks. Revised September 26, 1999 There was never a Russian Cossack Krnka nor a Russian Krnka carbine. . However, based on Russian sources we believe it to have been the short-leaf (600m range) sight. $169.91. No other Krnka exhibits this feature. M1860 Cossack 6-Lline rifle Photo Credit:http://www.islin-ovko.ru/e/269-o-kazachey-vintovke-zamolvite-slovo. Add to My Saved Parts. The action of the rifle remains in crisp, fully functional condition with all of the various pieces of the mechanism appearing to function correctly. It retains strong rifling and shows scattered light pitting and some frosting along its length. Developed from the 1860 Henry rifle, Winchester rifles were among the earliest repeaters. This detent system is almost identical to the Tabatire but for its positioning. A variety of small Cyrillic characters, the marks of workmen and inspectors are found throughout the gun. Product #: 2033580. We have made every effort to make this site friendly to cellphone users, but it's really designed to be viewed with a larger screen. Today, all 19th century Russian military arms are extremely scarce, as two World Wars saw most obsolete arms destroyed in scrap drives to create more modern munitions. $49.80. 4) The M1860 Cossack Rifle ( 1860 .) The brass buttstock is shaped differently from that of the long rifles and has a only a very minimal buttstock tang. This number was only the serial number of the breech assembly. Most sadly, as the pictured rifle spent too much of its life in Afghanistan, the rear sight is now missing so no information is available on this rifles rear sight as issued. . Since Colt no longer had a manufacturing facility, he contracted with Eli Whitney of Whitneyville, Connecticut, to produce these guns. The Infantry and Marksmans rifles are virtually identical, at approximately 53.5 inches (1,360 mm) long with identical features and hardware except only for different rear sight. It was Krnka, and not the, In February of 1869 it was proposed that the conversions to the Carl system be halted and that conversions to a metallic cartridge be substituted. All of them participated in the Serbo-Bulgarian war of 1885 and some of them even fought in the Balkan Wars of 1912-13. hollow-base Mini bullet. He was gone, but his rifle still remains, The choice of the Krnka system hinged on it's relative simplicity, low precision needed for manufacture of the conversion parts, potential for die-forging the receiver to near-finished dimensions (making production far cheaper and faster), and the ease of adapting the hammer to the system's striker. Feed system. condition, particularly for a 19th century Russian military long arm. Quite rare The gun appears complete and remains mechanically functional. Astonishingly, the Krnka was officially adopted in March of 1869. When the auto-complete results are available, use the up and down arrows to review and Enter to select. )/66 Krnka) for conversion of a breechloader. The photos should do a good job of depicting the condition of the stock. The references to the Krnka meanings are below his letter. Figure 87 View of the assembled lock of the Krnka rifle. Despite the adoption of improved technology, the Russian Krnka alterations remained in service for several decades after they were obsolete. Eligible for FREE shipping *. WebIn 1858. a new production line with 28 skilled workers under the guidance of Mihailo Cveji was set up for converting some 15.000 old flintlock muskets to percussion system: in the first year only some 1,800 rifles were converted, then the production increased to 1.000 addapted rifles a month, so by 1863. They were first used in defense of, and later in the assault on fortresses. M1856/69 Russian Krnka Marksman rifle ( ) Photo Credit:https://naukatehnika.com/russkaya-vintovka-sistemyi-krnka.html, M1858/69 Russian Krnka Infantry rifle ( )- Photo Courtesy ofadamsguns.com. In 1873 Colonel Baron T.F. Is it "SESTRORETSKIY ORUZHEYNIY ZAVOD" which means "Sestroretsk Arms Factory"? In 1856, the Russians adopted their first rifled long arm of reduced bore for general issue to the infantry, the Model 1856 or Six Line Rifle. Quite rare possible Confederate use period copy of the P1853 rifle musket and made by various Spanish armories as well as well known Birmingham makers such as this one is. Never take a Krnka's word for it regarding any rear sight that it carries! WebMusket Rifles Traditions Classic Musket line have high quality premium metal and wood finishes including hand-oiled wood stocks. The lock is marked with initials . Note that the M1860 Cossack 6-Line rifle (much like the M1870 Berdan Cossack rifle) did not have a trigger guard nor a conventional curved trigger, but rather its trigger consisted of a stubby button, and instead of a hammer with a tall, pointed lever, the hammer had an integral ring. This M1858 6-Line rifle originally built in 1864 by the large, Belgium, Liege gunmaker Auguste Francotte & Cie (company), has been converted to a M1858 Krnka.. Photo Credit: Another Liege-built M1856 6-Line rifle converted to Krnka, this example manufactured and marked by Beuret Frres (Beuret Brothers), Liege 186(?). These guns are scarce in Russia and are practically never seen for sale in America. The stock shows the most wear and tear, having been lightly sanded and leaving the two cartouches only shadows of their former selves. This decision, and these sights, would carry over to the conversions of the rifles into M1869 Krnkas, although after the disappointing performance (to be kind) of the Krnkas against the Turks in the 10th Russo-Turkish War (1877-1878. Most of the conversion to Krnka work was carried out the Ludwig Nobel St. Petersburg Machine-Building Plant from 1869 into the early 1870s, while some work was done producing newly constructed M1869 Krnka rifles at the Izhevsk Arms Plant while the Russians struggled to get production going of the just-adopted Berdan II rifle. This same assembly mating number from the alteration process appears on the top of the buttplate, on the top of the barrel, inside the lock, inside the barrel channel of the stock, on the right side of all three barrel bands, on the long range sight base and on the cleaning rod (ramrod). The donor rifles original trigger guard mounted sling swivel has been replaced with a simple steel plug. Photo Credit: User Nick Stanav viawww.gunboards.com/forums. Catherine, wife of Peter III (Peter the Greats grandson), succeeded him in 1762. The action of the rifle remains in crisp, fully functional condition with all of the various pieces of the mechanism appearing to function correctly. The stocks of the Krnka alterations will typically have two cartouches as well, one from the original percussion assembly and one from the alteration. WebModel: 1857 PERCUSSION MUSKET RIFLE. This generated a new era of repression lasting through the reigns of Russias last two Romanovs, Alexander III (1881-1894) and Nikolas II (1894-1917). The altered arms were chambered for the 15.24x40R, a .60 caliber, rimmed centerfire cartridge, similar to the French Tabatire in terms of its stubby appearance and relatively puny ballistics when compared to the US .50-70 or British .577 Snider. The 141-page book contains detailed, as yet unpublished, information on the individual parts of the rifle, their markings, drawings of all components, a description of the function, including how to adjust and check the rifle for its reliable and safe function. .577 caliber Carried by: Sterling E. Lucas Co. H (Warren Volunteers), 21 Regt. The best current theory as to their origins is that these well-made rifles are later Bulgarian adaptations from Russian Krnkas supplied to them. Product #: 1900440. This block contained the simple firing pin, as well as external piece that communicated the impact of the hammer to the pin. There were no ballistic differences between these rifles, only the military authorities' beliefs in the ability of various soldiers to hit their targets at longer ranges! Photo Credit:https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/23768575-russia-sylvestr-krnka-model-1857-single-shot-percussion-musket-15-2mm, Follow-On Rifle(s): M1868 Russian Berdan I. The Dragoon and Rifles are some 48.5 inches (1,230 mm) long with a 31.1 inch (790mm) long barrel. The lock plate is marked with manufacturers marking which may be Russian arsenal or foreign manufactured. They may well have had need to shorten Krnkas for use by their own special troops, gendarmerie and even possibly cavalry, but we have not been able to verify this possibility. All shorter Krnka rifles are either Bulgarian conversions for special-troop use, or locally altered post-service for civilian use. WebThe design of the rifle. This is deliberate, so that in the event of a jammed firing pin, given the weak firing pin retraction spring, this allows the cleaning rod to be used to push the firing pin back into battery. For the time being, however, the stock appears to be solid, despite the cracks. The obverse butt is stamped with two illegible cartouches, the weakest likely the original percussion production cartouche and the slightly more legible one the mark applied after the alteration. For example, Russian 6-line rifles were made by the Birmingham Small Arms Company evidenced by lockplate markings as well as the BSA trademark bow and arrow markings on various other parts of the rifle. In February of 1869 it was proposed that the conversions to the Carl system be halted and that conversions to a metallic cartridge be substituted. Twenty years later Russia again went to war with the Turks attempting to regain Bessarabia and, although they defeated the Turks (see Turkey / M1866 Winchester and Turkey / M1872 Peabody-Martini ), British and Austrian forces interceded forcing Russia to give up most of its gains. The stock shows some scattered bumps, dings and handling marks; all typical of a military long arm, as well as some minor slivering along the forend and ramrod channel. The barrel bands were originally from a M1856 musket whose serial number ended with 9286 and the left side of the bands are all stamped with that number, as well as with the bow & arrow logo of the Sestroretsk arsenal where those components and the nose cap were produced. Muzzle velocity when fired from the Marksman & Infantry rifles: 305 m/s, 570-grain bullet, 1,075 fps (From ROTW pg 281). Unfortunately by this time the Berdan series of rifles was well established and further development of the Krnka was abandoned. The cartridge weighed 204 g with a propellant weight of 23.4 g seating a bullet weighing 128 g, developing a muzzle velocity of 427 m/s. If the vast stores of M1856 and M1858 rifles were to be converted, they were going to fire metallic cartridges. The total weight of the gun, carriage, limber, and implements was 3,865 pounds. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. 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