Are lost today. That is the only thing God really asks of us. And the pain of recovery will be greater than the pain of the injury, but if you do it, your leg will be stronger than your other leg for the rest of. Premier Christianity uses cookies Read our cookie policy. Had I listened to the Pastor who told me Joyce Meyers ministry went against the word of God I may still be 300+pounds tens of thousands of dollars in debt and struggling to find my worth and value as a woman of God. Ugliness! Hagins principal disciple was Kenneth Copeland who, with his wife, Gloria, is the unofficial leader of the Word of Faith movement. So Ive got to do exactly what Im telling anyone else to do. 40.2K followers. When learning we have a responsibility to also study and pray with diligence and seek Gods will not blindly follow the teachings of any man or woman. CAN YOU CAST THE FIRST STONE? Im helping girls in the A21 transition homes who have been brutally abused and raped and are so shame-filled, helping them find their identity in Christ and stand on their own two feet, she told Hope 103.2, [but] Ive seen some of those same shame struggles in some of the most successful women, that battle with the shame of trying to balance life, thinking Im at the office too much and Im not the mother or wife I could be or girls that are in their mid 30s or 40s and are single and struggling with shame over that. Public confrontation ought to be animated by a desire to protect Gods people from being led astray by teaching that is spiritually and morally harmful to them (Acts 20:28). talks faith in Jesus, the problem with Black Lives Matter, being a victim of 'cancel culture', New Yorker satire headline mocks those who 'search the Bible' for Gods views, Barry Black: America's first black Senate chaplain says this Bible verse saved him from a life of crime, Heaven will be diverse. I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life, she said. You are also bearing false witness ( you accuse of jealousy, envy and trouble making) and youre judging out of pride and emotion, this is the way Christ forbids us to judge. Where does it say its ok to have others do the confronting for you? Christine Caine is an ordained pastor of her church in Australia, and also regularly speaks and travels without her husband. This is strictly how a person who is not qualified, is handling scripture. We cannot throw the baby out with the bath water, the fish out with the bones. Brother, youre a legalistic joke and I assure you whatever church youre a part of isnt thriving and reaching this generation. Christine Caine: Unleashing Your Life. Permissions Why Cant Us Men Tell Each Other How We Feel. In addition, Christine Caine endorses practice of pagan/witchcraft as seen here in Battersons Circle Making book blurb, 2. So here I am! The couple also run a network of churches in Europe, as well as Propel Women, a ministry that aims to equip women to fulfil their God-given purpose. 5,107 posts. Thanks to Christine, I plan on inviting several lost people to study the Bible with me this Easter season. I am curious to know the biblical basis for those who are unmarried to not be able to minister? If you know scripture you could in an instance see where Christine Caine is wrong. Colombes. She is an ordained pastor and functions in that capacity. 5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. And so Paul excommunicates these two false teachers, Hymenaeus and Alexander. Believers are to have nothing to do with anyone who claims authority as a teacher but who is not sound concerning the doctrine of Christ. Get more articles like this delivered straight to your inbox! We cant judge the hearts of the alleged converted, but we absolutely can judge the teaching. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. You meaning taking the word for WHAT IT IS and SPEAKING AND FOLLOWING IT BY FAITH!!?? Be encouraged as Christine Caine discusses how to escape the lies you may. Dont trust your heart, trust God. God will be our judge! I was honored when my former boss (who is male) told me that seeing the way I live my life inspired him to get back into his Bible and find a church for his family, as he had walked away from his faith after 12 frustrating years of Catholic school. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! Would anyone who claims to be a Christ follower choose to wear a pentagram? Parting question: did you see The Shack? Maybe you should try reading the word again. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple., The word mark is from (skopeo) which means to look at, behold, watch, contemplate; which is used metaphorically of looking to. It is used (Romans 16:17) of a warning against those who cause divisions, and in (Philippians 3:17) of observing those who walk uprightly that Christians might choose to walk after the example of the apostle and his fellow workers. For over thirty years, Christine Caine has shared the hope of Jesus around the world. No matter what is said or written, it should all be tested and proven with the scripturesnot accepted blindly. . Thales. (Marin) but I am discerning enough to know what to discard and when to take note of a truth they are speaking that I need to apply to my life. loads of accusations with no documentation.. Warn them, lovingly. But when I was 33, I found out that I had been left in a hospital, unnamed and unwanted when I was born, and then I had been adopted. Where am I?So I thought:OK, Im gonna put it all out there. This is so dumb. As I stated before, in the end, we will all be held accountable for our words, and if you feel great that the Lord will congratulate you on your posts, then AMEN! I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow. Many of the people you are tearing down are Gods people and are in the faith, running the race. If you desire to bring hope, create change, and see yourself the way God sees you, this . Am I talking like this? Our job is not to judge others. Has the author of this article ever listened to Christine Caine? "I sat in many waiting rooms full of cancer patients I could see the fear in their eyes. Perhaps this is where we are talking past each other. Billy Graham Minute. Believe it or not, I used to believe very similar to youthat as a woman I had no power to influence other men, that I was to simply shut up and do as I am told by the men around me, etc. Nick and Christine Caine, pictured with their daughters Catherine (left) and Sophia (right). . You are not confronting directly, and you know it. During the many moments that she sat in waiting rooms, Caine also questioned why some people had it worse than her and why waiting rooms are not seen as ministry opportunities by many. There is no direct evidence that Lydia had once been a slave, but the fact that her name is her place of origin rather than a personal name suggests this as at least a possibility. While Caine and others have been proven by some, to someones level of satisfaction, to be wolves, ( I personally dont care, and the reasons wil be explained below ) I find the idea you have put God in a box to be the hardest partt to swallow. YOU have an issue. Your value can only come from Jesus. Go take it to them personally. It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. Caine took to her blog on Tuesday to share that during the span of a week, she had gone from having a sore throat to being diagnosed with four separate throat conditions, including stage 1 of thyroid cancer. External Communication Officer. I think Im living proof that you can start bad and finish good. How did they respond? It appears to me that this would pretty much demand absolute avoidance. I guarantee you did! 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. The apostle Paul tells us that we ought to correct false teachers in the hope that God might change their mind about their error. I needed to feel this I had to walk through my own valley, but their path seemed so much harder and darker than mine," says Caine. Dont mistake love of the world for the true love of God, His Son, and His scripture. Gods will is very plainly stated in scripture. Anyone who goes beyond and will not continue abiding in the biblical doctrine of Christ has abandoned God. they apply to Cain and Meyer. Amo a Joyce, amo a Christine, a Beth ??? Priscilla also led her household in the making of disciples., Thyatira in the province of Lydia (located in what is now western Turkey) was famous for the red [variety of purple] dye. Apollos was a man mighty in the scriptures who taught accurately about Jesus but who nevertheless was only familiar with Johns baptism. Then mankind graduated from a belief based on laws, as we all did growing up under the laws and rules of our parents, and came to live in a belief based on faith. Yet hers is no pretty, polished story, and the frankness with which she addresses her own shortcomings, doubts and fears makes it, and her exhortation to keep chasing after the kingdom of God, even more compelling. Everythings going to be awesome. And that is drifting so far from what New Testament discipleship really is. Neither should you. At the beginning of the class, and many of the students were skeptical. [1] [2] gelist, Speaker, [4] [5] 2 Proponent of Word . And to whom am I calling anything behind their back? So youre assuming I never emailed none of the people over the years? What did Jesus say? ~ Christine Caine. Had I listened to the Pastor who told me Joyce Meyers ministry went against the word of God I may still be 300+pounds tens of thousands of dollars in debt and struggling to find my worth and value as a woman of God. But employ the wrong application. Beth Moore regularly travels to speaking and teaching engagements without her husband, as well as these others. 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Think of it as Christ did when he fed the five thousand. When we as Christians criticize each other we in public settings we become a stumbling block for the lost and a weapon of the enemy.. Shame eats away at the core of who we are. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. I can claim John McArthur as total heretic for some of the teachings he has preached, I can claim, Rick Warren is or any preacher. Evangelist Christine Caines 60-Second Testimony. Paul himself speaks in favor of remaining single rather than marrying (1 Cor. till seven times? I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven. Priscilla and her husband were Jewish tentmakers, show me in scripture where she was referenced as a leader of her household? Calling out error in the body is not pride. Talking about them and their ministries behind their backs is NOT of Christ. Christine Caine is the founder of A21, an international anti-human trafficking organization, and Propel, a woman's organization dedicated to helping women realize their purpose, passion and potential. Please show me where one called out wolf has been accused without documentation. There are many other denominations that have been around for years that teach false doctrines Scientology and Jehovahs Witnesses come to mind. Many of the people you are tearing down are Gods people and are in the faith, running the race.. CHRISTINE CAINE is a dynamic and passionate visionary whose powerful testimony of restoration impacts thousands of lives around the world each year. One of the scriptures cited here had absolutely no relation to anything i have ever heard Christine say, write or even imply I am referring to your quote of Rev 2:10 How is Christine having a Jezebel manipulation attitude? What lessons have you learned about partnering well in marriage and ministry? is one of many scriptures that come to mind, I love that you are always willing to name names, as we are required to do in Romans 16:17. You are even going by a username that hides your real identity. Does the author of this article have the power of discerning a persons heart? Is there any significance attached to the fact that Aquila is not named first every time, but equally shares mention with his wife? Heck, Christine taught me to get more diligent about making disciples and you found a way to completely trash that. I spend most of my time focusing on my OWN Bible study through prayer and time in the Word, as it is important for me to grasp a solid understanding of His word for myself (with the backing of the Holy Spirit) BEFORE I start delving into what other people have to say about the Bible, commentaries, and like. At 22, a friend took me to Hillsong Church in Sydney. by Christine Caine is available now, To hear the full interview listen to Premier Christian Radio at 8pm on 3 July or download The Profile podcast, The agnostic journalist Elle Hardy has been investigating how Pentecostalism is taking over the world. ~ Christine Caine. I cannot be made up like I am for television for everything I do, or I will never have a life! she says. Esther was at that place and at that time fulfilling Gods purpose to save the Jews, neither Caine nor Meyers are here to save Gods people. That's where it all started. Their end will correspond to their actions., How is what you are doing here promoting the gospel of truth? She adds, "I was blindsided by a surprise attack, but God was not. Now, on to Christine Caine. I have also lost friends to cults due to their lack of knowledge of the scriptures for themselves, and it breaks my heart every day. "Although a lot of bad things happened to me, my life is a testimony that God can talk the bad things that happened to you and turn them . If all were trying to do is put red meat before the congregation or drive up blog stats, thats not really a good motive. Quotes. Am I acting like this? You are more careful not to offend humans than you are to offend God. . I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life. As followers of Jesus in whom all things were made, we acknowledge the Darug people as the Traditional Custodians of the Country where our Station is located. Christine Caineis part of the rise of the Feminine Church of Eden. 2023 Hope Media Ltd ABN 94 284 074 898. As a matter of fact, Christines call for women to lean in to evangelism in this day and age and to NOT allow the politically chaotic environment to distract or discourage us from our calling to make disciples inspired me to examine the last time I led a lost soul to Christ. A friend told me that there was an evangelist from England, a Cypriot Greek called J. John. I know several women pastors that teach to men. They called people out TO THEIR FACES, whether in speech or by letter. What do we know really? That word is the same for us today we are responsible to test the spirits, research and hold everything up to Gods Word for comparison. All three companies are registered in England & Wales with a registered office address of Unit 6 April Court, Sybron Way, Crowborough, TN6 3DZ . So if you are rooted and grounded in Jesus and anchored to Jesus, youre good. Second of all, I came to realize that coming on sites like this and calling people names, publicly questioning if they even know the LordWHEN I HAVE NEVER MET THEMis NOT in the spirit of Matthew 18. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. They want to judge the world because it makes them feel better about their sad little lives. Rising from the Ashes of Abuse: Christine Caine & Jennifer Clinger - Jesus Calling Podcast Episode 68. Ukrainian People Living in Hope Despite Worsening Crisis, Chaplains Helping with Flood Disaster Recovery, How I Survived My Small Business Being Smashed By Floods and Pandemic, Living and Dying For Your Faith This Easter, Whats Important in My Life? I dont know you personally, so Id like to believe that it is not your intention to be condescending, so Id like to make you aware that there could be another, more loving way of asking about why someone has chosen a particular resource for guidance.and to acknowledge that while the teaching may not be perfect, that they have obviously gained something positive from it. Believe it or not, I used to believe very similar to youthat as a woman I had no power to influence other men, that I was to simply shut up and do as I am told by the men around me, etc. Youre going to be OK. How Did I Get Here? I was at one of her events this weekend and I quote from her message if you are called to be married, you are called to follow. I can understand why so many people hate Christians. Its taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. Your significance and security is not going to come from a ministry, church, career, salary, title. Christians are commanded not to worry, as we know our God is bigger than any situation, we are to lay at His feet ALL of our cares, He provides. I want to share my life, not a filtered life., In both her writing and speaking, no topic is off-limits whether it is the sexual abuse she suffered as a child, finding out that she was adopted in her 30s, battling thyroid cancer in her 40s, or the panic attacks that she started to experience in her 50s. Not tell EVERYBODY ELSE but them. You have yet to back up with scripture how what you are doing is the appropriate way of handling false teachers. >. The apostle Paul says that willingness to engage this kind of controversy is a qualification for office: He must hold fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, that he may be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict (Titus 1:9). Wow. Thanks! (Revelation 2:20). My whole goal is to say that Jesus put shame to shame on the cross. It involves tearing down every speculation and lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God (2 Corinthians 10:5). I was adopted as an infant and raised in a traditional Greek Orthodox home with traditional gender roles. Victoria Osteen shares how God can use your past to bring greatness to the Kingdom. A couple years after that, I ended up in a local church in Sydney, where I really started to grow as a disciple of Jesus.It shows you that there is a spirit realm to all this, which gives me great faith for the gospel around the world. What is your heart full of? Theres no room for compromising. We are all called to preach the gospel to others not only men! I watched T.D. Its sad and disappointing that this site calls for us to throw the baby out with the bathwater and ignore Christines call for us to keep winning souls for Christ. It's breathtaking to see what God has done in our offices around the world. But if you are the kind of person who always shrinks back from conflicteither because youre afraid or because you dont want to risk offending people or risk your chance at gathering a megachurchif you always shrink back from the conflict that sound doctrine brings, then you are not qualified to be a pastor. In terms of my own faith journey, growing up I attended a lot of two-hour services with liturgy in ancient Greek. Christine Caine is wife to Nick, mother to Catherine and Sophia, author of Undaunted, and founder of The A21 Campaign, an antihuman trafficking organization striving to abolish slavery in the 21st century. Wanting to be right? Get them into the boat. WAKE UP PEOPLE, THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, Mary, the disciples, the saints are examples for us to live by, HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT TO WORSHIP FALSE IDOLS OR PLACE ANYONE ABOVE HIM. That's why Hope 103.2 exists: to bring the message of hope to our community through a family-friendly, safe listening environment. God uses different people to reach the lost because every lost person is different. Our western culture and the western church has become so syncretized with New Age animism that many Christians cant tell the difference. When you're first abused, you're filled with shame about what is happening to you. You cant add or take away from the gospel and thats what they are doing. Christians publicly label entire groups of people, make assumptions about political affiliations, and vilify entire groups rather than seeking to lovingly understand and correct. Youve got to keep stirring up that gift of faith, which really prompted the writing ofHow Did I Get Here?, because I just hit this moment the perfect storm, like everyones been through in the last few years. Id like to know how you find Christine Cains teachings to not be Biblical? 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